CO029 Rebecca Lemke on Purity Culture

Rebecca Lemke’s book, The Scarlet Virgins will be published soon. You can read about it, and her on her blog here, or on Facebook here.

In our discussion, we talked about Purity Culture and its disadvantages, and its thought leaders including Josh Harris, who wrote I Kissed Dating Goodbye, and Bill Gothard who advocates total gender separation before marriage.

I mentioned The Loophole by Garfunkel and Oates, which is very NSFW.


I’ve been looking at the news coming out of the white house and thinking of something that the alt-right blogger, Vox Day predicted about the way that the news media would report goings on in the Trump administration. Recently we’ve had the firing of F.B.I. Director James Comey, before that we’ve had the reported rivalry between Jared Kushner and Steve Bannon, the firing of Michael Flynn, and if I was Seán Spicer, I wouldn’t be making any long term career plans just yet.

I actually sort of agree with Vox Day there, that turbulence is not a sign of failure, and that trying things and dropping them quickly if they don’t work is a good management strategy. People can laugh at Trump Steaks and Trump Vodka, but Trump is rich. Sure, he’s tried a lot of businesses that didn’t work out, but on the whole he has ended up way ahead. One of the reasons that he’s still rich was that he didn’t cleave on to failing businesses. And that’s a good strategy.

Nobody can expect to never make a mistake. But if you are the sort of person to recognise when you are doing something wrong and stop, then you are more likely to be successful.

But hang on. Sure, giving up on lost causes is a good idea. It reduces losses. But just reducing losses isn’t enough. If you want to successful, you have to also have some wins.

Trump made big promises during the election campaign. That was one of the reasons that he won, other politicians were nervous to make big promises because their political experience told them to be cautious in what they promised.

Trump promised big, not just his specific promises like the wall, but other more implied ones like bringing work back to the rust belt from China or Mexico or wherever. There are going to be a lot of very annoyed people if those promises don’t follow through; the message from the White House that all the personnel stories are side shows. Maybe they are, but if Trump doesn’t put a performance on the main stage, that might not be enough of a line to tell for too much longer.

CO028 John Iadarola talks to Challenging Opinions

John Iadarola is a co-presenter of The Young Turks and a presenter of Think Tank.

In our discussion, we referred to the Backfire Effect which was documented in a study by Brendan Nyhan and Jason Reifler, which found that people with invested political opinions tend to believe them even more strongly when confronted with refuting evidence.

We also talked about a Fairleigh Dickinson University study which showed that Fox News and MSNBC viewers not only scored much lower on their knowledge of current affairs than viewers of other news sources, but also scored lower than people who did not watch any news at all.

CO027 Todd Feinburg on the Necessity of Government

Todd Feinburg is a conservative radio host and presenter of the Harvard Lunch Club podcast. Follow him on Twitter or @ToddTalk.

CO026 Chris Tatem on Legalizing Prostitution

Chris Tatem is the presenter of the Cross Examined Life podcast. We talked about the Swedish model for prohibiting the purchase, but not the sale of sex by prostitutes, particularly in relation to the paper How to Argue About Prostitution by Michelle Madden Dempsey.

CO025 Doug Payton on the Electoral College

Doug Payton is the presenter of the Consider This podcast, and he also co-presents Person of Interest and Chester’s Mill Gazette for Golden Spiral Media.

Information about the US presidential Electoral College is here. This is the electoral system used to elect the mayor of London and this is the system used to elect the president of France.

CO024 Spocko on Data Privacy Rights

Spocko writes the blog In our discussion we discussed the Ashley Madison hack, and the exposure of the Hacking Team‘s client list.

This is a story about Spocko in the New York Times, and a clip about the TPP. This is a story about Spoco says Rush Limbaugh’s distributors hate him, and his take on Rupert Murdoch (in front of his shareholders) for why he kept Glenn Beck on TV while he was losing money for Fox News.

CO023 Rodney Perry on Race and Oppression

Rodney Perry is a writer, photographer and presenter of the Life as King podcast.

One of the things that I mentioned in our discussion was the Oppression Olympics, you can watch it here.

CO022 Claire Berlinski on Margaret Thatcher

Claire Berlinski is a journalist, academic and author. She has lived and worked in Thailand, Laos, Turkey and France, an an academic for the American Foreign Policy Council and the Manhattan Institute.

She has written a number of books, including There Is No Alternative about Margaret Thatcher. Claire’s GoFundMe page is here.

CO021 Julio Ricardo Varela on Hispanics in America

Julio Ricardo Varela a co-host of the In The Thick podcast and a frequent contributor to other media including LatinoUSA.

In our discussion I mentioned that, among Trump supporters, a huge proportion think that he is performing well in his first weeks in the job, and that he has strong backing from voters in areas such as Macomb County, who previously twice backed Obama but swung Michigan for the GOP last November.


CO020 Joel Pollak on How Trump Won

Joel Pollak is the senior-editor-at-large for Breitbart News. He was the Republican candidate for U.S. Congress from Illinois’s 9th congressional district in 2010.

He wrote the book How Trump Won based on his experiences following Donald Trump on the campaign trail.

CO019 Larry Erickson on the American Left

Larry Erickson is the author of the blog Lotus – Surviving a Dark Time, and the presenter of Left Side of the Aisle show, and we discussed this blog post of his in particular.

CO018 Virginia Postrel on Donating a Kidney

Virginia Postrel is an author and columnist.

She writes for Bloomberg View and we talked about this column of hers. Virginia mentioned this book by Michele Goodwin, and I referenced this study of penalties for collecting children late from childcare.

CO017 Jennifer Briney on the ‘Congressional Dish’

Jennifer Briney is the presenter of the excellent Congressional Dish podcast.

In our discussion, we talked about the STOCK act which concerns transparency for how elected officials vote on issues that affect stocks they hold. She exposed how it was hobbled to prevent easy access by citizens.

CO016 Michael Tobis on the Science of Climate Change

Michael Tobis is the author of In It for the Gold, and has a PhD in Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

CO015 Julie Davis on Being a Catholic

Julie Davis is a presenter of the podcast  A Good Story is Hard to Find and the author of the Happy Catholic blog.

This is the source for the quote from Sam Harris that I mentioned, and the papal encyclical that Julie referred to is Laudato Si.

This is Pascal’s Wager that Julie mentioned, and this is a trailer for Philomenia, the story of an Irish woman who had her child kidnapped and sold into adoption while she was incarcerated in a church-run institution. These are articles about Mary Merritt, whose story I mentioned. This is the trailer for Spotlight, about the cover-up of sexual abuse in the Boston Archdiocese.

Information on John Paul II and Benedict XVI instructing bishops to protect child abusers and not report them to police is here and here. The pattern appears to be continuing.

CO014 Nathan Damigo on White Nationalism Part 2

Nathan Damigo is the founder of Identity Evropa, and he and his organisation have widely been accused of racism, which he denies.

This is part two of the interview which began last Monday. You can hear part one here.

CO013 Rob Morse on Guns and Safety

Rob Morse is the author of Slow Facts and co-host of the Polite Society podcast.

I referred to this Swiss study which concluded “The restriction of firearm availability in Switzerland resulting from the Army XXI reform was followed by an enduring decrease in the general suicide rate.”

Rob and I disagreed on international crime rates. These rates are difficult to compare because of the different practices in reporting and recording crimes. Serious crimes give the most valid comparison because they are nearly always reported, and are considered crimes in all jurisdictions. The United States has a murder rate of 4.7, which is much lower than some Third World world countries, but the highest of any major developed country. Ireland has a murder rate of 1.2; source.

I got gun international ownerships rates slightly wrong, but was correct that the rate in the US is by a wide margin the highest in the world.

Rob and I differed on the ability of a ‘good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun‘. This was in the context of NRA president, Wayne LaPierre’s reaction to several mass shootings, saying that armed civilians can make society safer. Rob cited several examples from his page Saved by a Good Person with a Gun, which lists 10 examples. However, only four cases (10, 9, 4, 2) actually claim to be an incident where an American civilian with a gun stopped a shooting, and none meet the definition of a mass shooting, four or more victims shot in a single incident, although it is reasonable to think that they might have, without an intervention.

Rob doesn’t provide links, though I am happy to accept his word. However, to collect those four examples, Rob has to go back over almost 20 years, and by the stricter definition there have been many thousands of mass shootings in the US in that period, now at a rate of almost one per day. Four incidents is a vanishingly small proportion of gun crime. Rob makes the point:

We seldom see a ‘mass shooting’ when an armed civilian intervenes in an attempted public violence.  The civilian stops the murderer before 4 people get killed.  The average being 2.3 dead if a civilian on the scene intervenes, versus 14.3 dead if no armed civilian is present and the murders proceed until the police arrive.

It is certainly valid to count incidents where an attacker is stopped by a civilian and set them against mass shootings with more casualties because nobody intervened. I don’t know the source of the figures he quotes,  and I acknowledge that it is possible to end up with a different dataset by changing the criteria, but accepting all of the incidents he cites over the past 20 years, they don’t indicate that armed civilians can provide much protection from the rate of one mass shooting per day in the US in recent years.

This is the Democracy Index, ranking countries by the quality of their democracy. It is clear that there is no correlation between liberal gun laws and the quality of the democracy.

I overstated Somalia’s level of gun prevalence, it has about one gun for every 10 people.

CO012 Rob Lyons on Food Scares

Rob Lyons is the writer of the blog Panic on a Plate, and he wrote the book of the same name, which is availaible on Amazon.

In the interview, we talked about this article in the UK Daily Telegraph which talked about taking ‘Best Before’ dates off some food products such as salt and pasta in the European Union because those products have very long shelf lives.

CO011 Nathan Damigo on White Nationalism – Part 1

Nathan Damigo is the founder of Identity Evropa, and he and his organisation have widely been accused of racism, which he denies.

The Los Angeles Times reports:

In November 2007, [Damigo] had been home for a month after his second tour of duty and was suffering from severe post-traumatic stress disorder, drug and alcohol abuse, paranoia and flashbacks, court records show. A few days after the anniversary of a friend’s combat death, he spent a night drinking and went for a walk with a gun he’d gotten two days before as a gift. He came across a La Mesa cab driver who he thought was Iraqi, put a gun to his head and robbed the man of $43, records show.

He was convicted of armed robbery and spent a year in county jail and four years in prison for the crime.

Part two of this interview will be released next Monday, Apirl 10.